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	<description>Because Food Doesn&#039;t Have to Come From the Store</description>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://www.sustainableeats.com/2009/11/13/holy-cow/comment-page-1/#comment-3580</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Oct 2010 04:50:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No worries at all.  Thundering Hooves also charges a delivery fee if you order from their site so the meat may not be much cheaper in the long run.  I&#039;ve never stored meat in the freezer for longer than a year but it&#039;s been fine up to a year that way.  The meat that I wrapped from Chubby, however, did not fare as well.  Luckily we ate it quickly.  I need to learn how to wrap those neat little bundles like the butcher does!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No worries at all.  Thundering Hooves also charges a delivery fee if you order from their site so the meat may not be much cheaper in the long run.  I&#8217;ve never stored meat in the freezer for longer than a year but it&#8217;s been fine up to a year that way.  The meat that I wrapped from Chubby, however, did not fare as well.  Luckily we ate it quickly.  I need to learn how to wrap those neat little bundles like the butcher does!</p>
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		<title>By: Aunt LoLo</title>
		<link>http://www.sustainableeats.com/2009/11/13/holy-cow/comment-page-1/#comment-3579</link>
		<dc:creator>Aunt LoLo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Oct 2010 04:08:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The PCC in Issaquah sells Thundering Hooves meat as well, but I believe the prices on the website are a little better than the ones in the store (of course!)

So, you haven&#039;t had a problem with the paper wrapped beef getting freezer burned? (How long do you think you could store it that way? The whole year, as you could if it were vacuum packed?) 

Sorry to bombard you with so many questions! A friend and I went &quot;meat hunting&quot; the other day, comparing prices and options at PCC, Whole Foods and Trader Joe&#039;s. It&#039;s hard to find grass-fed beef that ISN&#039;T ground up!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The PCC in Issaquah sells Thundering Hooves meat as well, but I believe the prices on the website are a little better than the ones in the store (of course!)</p>
<p>So, you haven&#8217;t had a problem with the paper wrapped beef getting freezer burned? (How long do you think you could store it that way? The whole year, as you could if it were vacuum packed?) </p>
<p>Sorry to bombard you with so many questions! A friend and I went &#8220;meat hunting&#8221; the other day, comparing prices and options at PCC, Whole Foods and Trader Joe&#8217;s. It&#8217;s hard to find grass-fed beef that ISN&#8217;T ground up!</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://www.sustainableeats.com/2009/11/13/holy-cow/comment-page-1/#comment-3577</link>
		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Oct 2010 04:56:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Aunt Lolo!  You may want to contact Prarie Springs Ranch and I&#039;ve also heard good things about  ronmattox at 360-856-5949.  You can phone and ask him questions but it&#039;s Highland beef, grass fed, unsprayed fields, etc.

Otherwise I would look at Thundering Hooves.  They come to town once a month and their prices are probably much better than Whole Foods, plus they have 100% grass fed beef from Washington.  I believe they are selling their meat at PCC now (at least the Fremont one was going to start first).  I used to get all our meat from them until we started sourcing larger and larger pieces of meat to get the pricing down.  The meat from all of them is wrapped in paper, sometimes coated paper, sometimes with plastic inside the paper but all wrapped well enough to survive extended deep freeze in my experience.  I wouldn&#039;t be crazy about 3 months of peas, potatoes, corn, oats or wheat.  2 weeks of finishing on organic grains is all I would look for.  Anything more than that can seriously change the composition of the meat.  Sally Fallon is ok with 2 weeks but my preference is for none.  Hope this helps!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Aunt Lolo!  You may want to contact Prarie Springs Ranch and I&#8217;ve also heard good things about  ronmattox at 360-856-5949.  You can phone and ask him questions but it&#8217;s Highland beef, grass fed, unsprayed fields, etc.</p>
<p>Otherwise I would look at Thundering Hooves.  They come to town once a month and their prices are probably much better than Whole Foods, plus they have 100% grass fed beef from Washington.  I believe they are selling their meat at PCC now (at least the Fremont one was going to start first).  I used to get all our meat from them until we started sourcing larger and larger pieces of meat to get the pricing down.  The meat from all of them is wrapped in paper, sometimes coated paper, sometimes with plastic inside the paper but all wrapped well enough to survive extended deep freeze in my experience.  I wouldn&#8217;t be crazy about 3 months of peas, potatoes, corn, oats or wheat.  2 weeks of finishing on organic grains is all I would look for.  Anything more than that can seriously change the composition of the meat.  Sally Fallon is ok with 2 weeks but my preference is for none.  Hope this helps!</p>
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		<title>By: Aunt LoLo</title>
		<link>http://www.sustainableeats.com/2009/11/13/holy-cow/comment-page-1/#comment-3576</link>
		<dc:creator>Aunt LoLo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Oct 2010 03:51:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi! I know you wrote this AGES ago, but I think you&#039;ll still get notification of this comment. 

ANYWHO. A friend and I have been scouting out our options for grass-fed beef...and none of them have really been that exciting. 

So, I have two questions: 
1) Did you like your experience with Cascade Farms Beef? Was the meat good? And, when the meat arrived (butchered and packaged) was it all just wrapped in paper? Or was it vacuum packed? And how much was it per pound?

2) At Whole Foods, they sell &quot;Vegetarian Beef&quot;. It is grass-fed until the last 60-90 days, and then finished on peas, potatoes and corn, plus oats and wheat, I think. Is...that ok? The corn raises red flags, of course, but oats and wheat are another type of grass. Help!!

(Ok, that&#039;s really two VEINS of questions, instead of just two questions. Sorry!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi! I know you wrote this AGES ago, but I think you&#8217;ll still get notification of this comment. </p>
<p>ANYWHO. A friend and I have been scouting out our options for grass-fed beef&#8230;and none of them have really been that exciting. </p>
<p>So, I have two questions:<br />
1) Did you like your experience with Cascade Farms Beef? Was the meat good? And, when the meat arrived (butchered and packaged) was it all just wrapped in paper? Or was it vacuum packed? And how much was it per pound?</p>
<p>2) At Whole Foods, they sell &#8220;Vegetarian Beef&#8221;. It is grass-fed until the last 60-90 days, and then finished on peas, potatoes and corn, plus oats and wheat, I think. Is&#8230;that ok? The corn raises red flags, of course, but oats and wheat are another type of grass. Help!!</p>
<p>(Ok, that&#8217;s really two VEINS of questions, instead of just two questions. Sorry!)</p>
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		<title>By: Saving Money by Eating Locally</title>
		<link>http://www.sustainableeats.com/2009/11/13/holy-cow/comment-page-1/#comment-917</link>
		<dc:creator>Saving Money by Eating Locally</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jan 2010 18:44:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] chickens, a second freezer to house farmer direct meat and wholesale buying clubs were my [...]</description>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://www.sustainableeats.com/2009/11/13/holy-cow/comment-page-1/#comment-630</link>
		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 07:13:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Marcy - I&#039;m so sorry to hear that!  We have raccoons in the neighborhood.  I wish I could convince the dog to stay outside more during the day - that would make me much more comfortable when we aren&#039;t home!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Marcy &#8211; I&#8217;m so sorry to hear that!  We have raccoons in the neighborhood.  I wish I could convince the dog to stay outside more during the day &#8211; that would make me much more comfortable when we aren&#8217;t home!</p>
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		<title>By: Marcy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marcy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 20:22:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just lost a chicken yesterday to a racoon during the day. I had a chicken that liked to fly out of the run in the afternoon and I found her dead by the gate when I got home. I wish I had clipped her wings, but I wanted to pass on that because of all the cold dry weather we&#039;ve been having, predators are getting desparate and coming out during the day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just lost a chicken yesterday to a racoon during the day. I had a chicken that liked to fly out of the run in the afternoon and I found her dead by the gate when I got home. I wish I had clipped her wings, but I wanted to pass on that because of all the cold dry weather we&#8217;ve been having, predators are getting desparate and coming out during the day.</p>
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		<title>By: Rebecca</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rebecca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 18:40:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am in the Northeast.  Real estate is pricey where I am, so I wonder if that contributes to meat prices.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am in the Northeast.  Real estate is pricey where I am, so I wonder if that contributes to meat prices.</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://www.sustainableeats.com/2009/11/13/holy-cow/comment-page-1/#comment-516</link>
		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 21:55:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have an extra upright fridge/freezer and a small chest freezer in the garage.  I WISH there was a page that explained all that but I&#039;ve dealt with two butchers now and asked that question and they both said they don&#039;t have a site.  

I found this:  http://www.askthemeatman.com/beef.htm but there is so much info that it was overwhelming and I still made ordering mistakes.

Good luck finding a more affordable rancher - what part of the country are you in?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have an extra upright fridge/freezer and a small chest freezer in the garage.  I WISH there was a page that explained all that but I&#8217;ve dealt with two butchers now and asked that question and they both said they don&#8217;t have a site.  </p>
<p>I found this:  <a href="http://www.askthemeatman.com/beef.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.askthemeatman.com/beef.htm</a> but there is so much info that it was overwhelming and I still made ordering mistakes.</p>
<p>Good luck finding a more affordable rancher &#8211; what part of the country are you in?</p>
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		<title>By: Rebecca</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rebecca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 13:37:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I  am so jealous!  Locally raised meat here is at the very cheapest $3.50/lb for hanging weight, which translates to $5-6/lb for the actual meat.

Do you fit all of that in your freezer, or do you have more than one freezer?

I&#039;m still interested to read about your experience, because I want to buy some of that expensive (but cheaper than Whole Foods) meat, and I liked your tip about canning beef broth (which is what I guess I would do with a ton of bones that wouldn&#039;t fit in the freezer).  I wonder if there is a site somewhere that says this part of the cow can be this cut or that cut of meat?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I  am so jealous!  Locally raised meat here is at the very cheapest $3.50/lb for hanging weight, which translates to $5-6/lb for the actual meat.</p>
<p>Do you fit all of that in your freezer, or do you have more than one freezer?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m still interested to read about your experience, because I want to buy some of that expensive (but cheaper than Whole Foods) meat, and I liked your tip about canning beef broth (which is what I guess I would do with a ton of bones that wouldn&#8217;t fit in the freezer).  I wonder if there is a site somewhere that says this part of the cow can be this cut or that cut of meat?</p>
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